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On top of being a musician, an audio engineer, and an absolute lists aficionado, Kyle Pelligrino-Hartman, CPACC, currently operates as a partnerships & alliances consultant for eSSENTIAL Accessibility. Kyle truly cares about making the world a more just and inclusive place for everyone, and never backs down from an opportunity to facilitate a group to help them build a better understanding of why inclusion matters.

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Interview with Kyle Pelligrino-Hartman, CPACC

Last updated on May 15, 2022
by Denis Boudreau
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Kyle Pelligrino-Hartman

Every week, we meet with audience members with disabilities who are willing to come forward and share a little bit about their own personal journey and experiences, attending live, in-person, or virtual speaking or training events. Through their unique and generous perspectives, speakers, trainers, facilitators, and other communication professionals can hopefully learn about some of the things that they do well, but also (and maybe more importantly) about some of the things they could improve to provide an experience that is truly inclusive of everyone.

Meet Kyle, an audience member who is Type 1 Diabetes and ADHD

So without further ado, let’s dive right into this week’s interview with Kyle Pelligrino-Hartman (he/him). Kyle has Type 1 Diabetes and ADHD, and comes to us from Michigan, USA.

Introductions

QUESTION 01 Can you tell us a bit about yourself, and how your disability might impact your experience, as someone who attends live in-person and virtual events?

  1. I’m a creative problem-solver with a passion for connecting with people/audiences and have served in multiple people-facing roles (teaching, sales, partnerships, etc.)
  2. As a person with Type 1 Diabetes and ADHD, a couple of key things that can negatively impact my experiences are over-stimulation (lots of noise, bright lights, people talking over each other during presentations), distracting behavior (such as someone’s “nervous mouse” moving all over a screen), and presentations that are extremely text-heavy. This interferes with my ability to engage with content in a meaningful way (i.e. I not only learn but am able to retain and apply information).

Things that ruin the experience

QUESTION 02 Thinking back on some of your experiences attending in-person or virtual events, what are some of the worst things speakers, trainers, and other communication experts can do to ruin your experience as an attendee?

  1. Text-heavy presentations & jargon,
  2. No clear goals or “ways to apply” what I’ve learned, and
  3. Lack of passion from the presenter.

Things that make a positive impact

QUESTION 03 Can you share some of the great things speakers, trainers, and other communication experts sometimes do that make a positive impact on your ability to fully enjoy your in-person or virtual event experiences?

  1. Start with a 2-3 minute warm-up,
  2. SMART Learning Objectives that inform
    1. a) the material being presented,
    2. b) the means by which a presenter can evaluate how effective the training/presentation is, and
    3. c) what your participants/learners should be able to do coming out of a session. It’s not enough to simply present material. The internet does that all day, and at a much faster pace. Great speakers help participants contextualize, situate, and apply knowledge.
  3. Agenda,
  4. Concise use of slides,
  5. Use of analogies to illustrate points,
  6. Providing opportunities for participants to engage in the content.

Sharing a piece of advice

QUESTION 04 If you had one piece of advice to give speakers, trainers, and other communication experts, so their content became more inclusive of people who have disabilities, what would it be?

  1. Understand and address the multitude of learning styles – this by definition will help be more inclusive, as learning styles are impacted by disabilities,
  2. Research – what specific needs do PwD’s require to be able to engage in content,
  3. Stay humble – no way to be perfectly inclusive; if you slip up, acknowledge it, apologize, and move on,
  4. Limit text-heavy presentations and jargon as much as possible.

Wrapping up

QUESTION 05 Thank you for sharing some of your insights with us today. As we wrap up our conversation, is there anything that you’d like to add, such as another thought, another piece of advice, another perspective, etc.?

Learning to present more inclusively is fundamentally part of being an effective presenter/trainer/communicator, and understanding the role that digital accessibility plays in reaching audiences is a valuable tool for engaging a broader audience. This isn’t something just “to do,” but rather another way to improve your craft! Also, ADHD folks love lists if you can’t already tell! 😉

Connect with our guest on social

Interested in knowing more about our guest this week? You can follow Kyle on LinkedIn and Twitter.

Would you like to be featured as one of our next guests?

Are you a person with a disability who’d like to share their experience attending live, in-person or virtual events, in order to help speaking professionals learn from their mistakes, and become more inclusive in the delivery of their content? If so, fill out our interview questionnaire, and we’ll work together to feature your experience and perspective in the near future!

Denis Boudreau

About Denis Boudreau

Denis Boudreau is a consultant, trainer, and speaker specializing in digital accessibility and disability inclusion. He works with organizational leaders who want to equip their teams with the skills to create accessible websites and digital products – so no one is left behind. A Certified Professional in Web Accessibility (CPWA), Denis has trained thousands of web professionals over the past 20+ years and delivered hundreds of workshops in both English and French. He has helped leading brands like Netflix, Salesforce, and Victoria’s Secret embed accessibility into their digital strategies, empowering them to meet legal obligations, improve user experience, and connect with more people, more effectively.

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Every day, millions of people with disabilities are blocked from accessing information, services, and products – simply because organizations overlook digital accessibility. These aren’t edge cases. They’re your customers, your employees, your community.

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