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This section is dedicated to the lived experiences of audience members with disabilities willing to share how speaking professionals sometimes leave them behind. So we can all learn to do better.

Trudy is an Accessibility Consultant at Deque and copes with several disabilities, including having one hand, severe tinnitus, and possibly dyslexia. With 24 years of experience in web technologies, she began her digital accessibility journey in 2002 by training departments in her county. After leading a significant accessibility initiative at a Fortune-500 e-commerce company, Trudy joined Deque, where her passionate drive to promote accessibility and inclusion inspires others.

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Interview with Trudy Karl

Last updated on April 23, 2023
by Denis Boudreau
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Inklusiv Interviews - Helping speaking professionals become truly inclusive. Sunday April 23rd, 2023. Trudy Karl.

Every week, we meet with audience members with disabilities who are willing to come forward and share a little bit about their own personal journey and experiences, attending live, in-person, or virtual speaking or training events. Through their unique and generous perspectives, speakers, trainers, facilitators, and other communication professionals can hopefully learn about some of the things that they do well, but also (and maybe more importantly) about some of the things they could improve to provide an experience that is truly inclusive of everyone.

Meet Trudy, an audience member who has hearing loss (severe tinnitus) and undiagnosed dyslexia

So, without further ado, let’s dive right into this week’s interview with Trudy Karl (she/her). Trudy has hearing loss caused by tinnitus, as well as undiagnosed dyslexia. She comes to us from California, USA.

Introductions

QUESTION 01 Can you tell us a bit about yourself, and how your disability might impact your experience, as someone who attends live in-person and virtual events?

I have multiple disabilities. Two are specifically relevant and impact my ability to participate in live and virtual events: tinnitus and likely undiagnosed dyslexia.

Tinnitus, in particular, creates a unique form of hearing loss for me, with a persistent tone at 11,000 Hz, a very high frequency. Occasionally, I may also experience lower audible tones. Unfortunately, I have not learned of hearing aids that are truly helpful for my condition. I am also very cautious about protecting my hearing. Amplified sounds could potentially cause more harm to my ears or trigger even louder tinnitus, making me highly sensitive to loud noises.

As I learn more about dyslexia, I have started to suspect that I may have it. While I am not entirely sure, I do recall struggling with reading comprehension as a child and confusing lowercase letters like “d” and “b” and numerals like “3” and “E.” Additionally, large blocks of text on a page or screen have always appeared to jump around, which continues to be the case for me.

Things that ruin the experience

QUESTION 02 Thinking back on some of your experiences attending in-person or virtual events, what are some of the worst things speakers, trainers, and other communication experts can do to ruin your experience as an attendee?

As someone with tinnitus, I struggle to comprehend speech when a speaker does not enunciate, speaks softly, or fades off at the end of their sentence. My newer tendency to read lips adds to the challenge, particularly when a speaker has their back turned while talking. In virtual events, unclear speakers can also pose problems for auto-captioning, potentially leading to inaccuracies and a loss of meaning. All of these issues can be incredibly frustrating and diminish the overall experience.

Protecting my hearing is a top priority for me. During in-person events, excessively loud audio speakers can have a detrimental effect on my hearing. Loud noises can trigger my tinnitus to become even more severe, resulting in a prolonged and uncomfortable increase in volume that can last for hours.

In regards to my dyslexia, presentation slides that contain an excessive amount of text can be challenging to read quickly enough. It would be helpful to either provide sufficient time for reading a slide or, even better, simplify the text or utilize bullet points. Doing so would aid in faster comprehension and offer a contextual overview to supplement the presentation.

Things that make a positive impact

QUESTION 03 Can you share some of the great things speakers, trainers, and other communication experts sometimes do that make a positive impact on your ability to fully enjoy your in-person or virtual event experiences?

With all conferences I have attended, both live and virtual, speakers who enunciate clearly and face the audience while speaking make it much easier to understand them.

At one live conference, in particular, I noticed appropriate sound levels. They must have performed careful sound checks to ensure the audio speakers were not too loud, which was a significant relief for me. Safe sound levels at conferences can still be rare. Additionally, concise and impactful presentation slides with clear verbiage significantly improved the experience for myself and everyone in attendance.

It became evident that with each of these experiences, consideration of presentation style and materials can increase accessibility and inclusivity.

Sharing a piece of advice

QUESTION 04 If you had one piece of advice to give speakers, trainers, and other communication experts, so their content became more inclusive of people who have disabilities, what would it be?

Inclusive speaking and presenting are incredibly valuable to many people, not just those with disabilities or special needs. As a speaker, it is worth the extra effort and time spent carefully crafting what you deliver toward being inclusive. With that said, anyone involved in professional communication could gain a great deal from resources on inclusivity, such as offered by Denis Boudreau.

Wrapping up

QUESTION 05 Thank you for sharing some of your insights with us today. As we wrap up our conversation, is there anything that you’d like to add, such as another thought, another piece of advice, another perspective, etc.?

Anything we can do to communicate more clearly and effectively is worthwhile. In my work as an Accessibility Consultant for Deque Systems, I know the value of empathy toward anyone who has felt marginalized or forgotten. All of us can benefit from putting ourselves in another person’s shoes to imagine their challenges, and we then can do what is necessary to be more inclusive.

Connect with our guest on social

Interested in knowing more about our guest this week? You can follow Trudy on LinkedIn and Twitter.

Would you like to be featured as one of our next guests?

Are you a person with a disability who’d like to share their experience attending live, in-person or virtual events, in order to help speaking professionals learn from their mistakes, and become more inclusive in the delivery of their content? If so, fill out our interview questionnaire, and we’ll work together to feature your experience and perspective in the near future!

Denis Boudreau

About Denis Boudreau

Denis Boudreau is a consultant, trainer, coach, and speaker specializing in inclusive leadership and inclusive communication. He works with leaders and executives who are no longer willing to overlook disability inclusion and want to transform their leadership approach from “inclusive-ish” to truly inclusive by championing accessibility. A Certified Professional in Web Accessibility (CPWA), Denis has trained thousands of professionals over the past two decades and has delivered hundreds of workshops worldwide in ​both English and French. He​ has ​h​elped leading brands like Netflix, Salesforce, Victoria’s Secret, and many more embed disability inclusion into their ​business strategies, empowering ​t​hem to break down barriers and create deeper, more meaningful connections​ with their target audiences while also meeting legal obligations.

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